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I'm not against the idea of returning to a more hypermedia style of web, but I think AsciiDoc would be a better human-readable format than Markdown.

:: @Kroc added on 04 Apr ’24 · 17:41

(P.S. this post is regarding this blog entry: https://camendesign.com/blog/markdown-web)

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append delete #1. Kroc

And you are 100% correct, but if anything we’re going to get off the ground it would need to require the lowest amount of work for existing content and the lingua franca

append delete #2. r14c

A project that you might be interested in that works *somewhat* along the lines of your post is the gemini protocol (geminiprotocol.net). its pretty limited by design, so maybe doesn't fit the requirements. i love this line of thinking though and gemini is, at least, a decent example of a concrete attempt in this direction.

one note about gemini is that its standardized a text format called gemtext that is somewhat analogous to gopher index files. there's no reason why clients couldn't serve markdown though. i believe some clients have first class support for markdown documents too!

i also wanted to say. i lost my old password account, but i've been following your blog for years and years. thanks for being an inspiration to a younger version of myself to get into web and especially thinking deeply about the intersections of web, design, and usability!

append delete #3. Kroc

Oh! Nice to hear from you again. Sorry I'm no longer on the ball these days, I have a wife and a son to look after now and the 'Web has completely gone off the rails from the web I was trying to build :/

I have spoken of Gemini before (https://mstdn.social/@kroc/110952073856751159) and that it's not a solution for existing web content. I think it's neat, but fundamentally flawed as a document format.

Choosing Markdown is about reusing what already exists to minimise adoption cost; I don't even like Markdown and think there's way better formats, but I have to acknowledge that a ton of web content is already written in Markdown before being converted and sites could begin serving the original files with minimal effort. It's up to browsers to innovate here.

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